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  Alpha Cpt MaDvLaD Only then we can regain the respect we once had from outside, by returning to our roots. I do NOT mean that we should be criminals, NO, but security enthusiasts who dabble in everything which relates to the field of IT security, from cryptography to embedded security, networks etc. As B I do not believe that we will be as successful as the bunch of other communities out there and believe me, there are alot. Their main advantage is their number of users and supporters. In comparison I'd say we are just a "few" so we have to cope with the situation and make the best out of it. One way to success is our yellow brigade ! ************************************************************************ On 2007-11-18 23:33:16, int16h wrote >Some clarification and background is required on this poll, so you understand what this is about... > >In the history of CyberArmy's existence, there have been many changes, some of which have caused CA to stray from what it originally stood for others which have enticed new generations of members. The Mission Statement has also changed, and there have always been a lot of views and comments on it; A lot of the time, it makes CyberArmy out to be some kind of Passive OpenSource|GNU research community support group. Then there was the ISPAN plan and related ideas: Sweep anything which was legally questionable under the carpet, and publically appear to be GNU Hippies. I believe this was partly why active membership dropped drastically - It was supporting freedom of speech et al in one paragraph, but at the same time, forbidding any talk which may be illegal in some countries. Yes, times have changed - but ideals have not. > >I personally believe our values should be what they were originally with slight modification to reflect modern times - supporting any form of information distribution, and not worrying about being looked down upon by any person or organisation (many respectable communities, organisations and sites do this now - which may at one point been seen as "blackhat hacking" activities). Especially now, when "modern" countries like Germany have recently enforced laws which prohibit many forms of security tools and information in the country. > >There was a time when CyberArmy was mentioned in the media, CA was one of the pioneers of security/hacking/freedom communities - and anyone now involved in the larger organisations will remember what CyberArmy once was... Now we're just another OSS|GNU|Research community site - scared to express views and do something about the ever-growing 'Big Brother' world we live in. Are we an Army, or a Hippy Commune? > >What do you think? Should we stand up for what's 'right' and rebelling against violations of our rights (as I personally see it), and promote 'proof-of-concept' and possibly legally questionable projects etc - or remain a dormant support network that very few have any interest in anymore. > > >A) Non-Profit Organisation (Passive community, with studies in programming) > >B) Free Community ("No Holes barred!", community of free information and against government restrictions on the aforementioned activities and surveillance) > >C) Community of ad-hoc 'hackers' and anarchists > > > Replies:
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