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Posted by ViceCinC wa1800z On 2004-11-19 14:41:22
In Reply to sugestions Posted by Guest(spiderman) On 2004-11-18 23:57:01

ViceCinC
ViceCinC wa1800z


okay, i'll bite on this.. crunchy

On 2004-11-18 23:57:01, spiderman wrote
>3 Suggestions

what is the point of posting anonymously man?

>1)Drop Ranks Totally the board of directers is a good idea (member elected)

okay, but to solve what problems exactly? not saying there isn't any, just want to understand your motivations for a such move.

>2)Bring challenges back (That is what cyberarmy started off on you cant just )

100% with you here, the lack of challenges destabilized the community.
some priorities could have been sorted better i guess, yet again, the circonstances didn't help at all.. one learns from his experiences, and it's to the future that we are looking now.

>3)Chawmp, Wa1800z Stop using snarkles as a front for this organisation the entire memberbase know u guys have ran it since pengo left (hence the dramatic fall) you guys are losing control pass the torch on to someone else, They cant possibly do any worse.

if you have a problem with either me or chawmp i don't beleive it's either apropriate nor fair to belittle great folks such as scanjack, and especially snarkles who is possibly one of the best and hardest working cincs ever. (and i've known and closely worked with them all)

which takes us to me i guess. apparently, in your opinion i am incompetent, maybe, but i still have the trust of a lot of people, who obivously don't agree with you, so i think i'll stick around till:
1) i consider i made this place better than it was given to us (yes, i am a scout, baden powel > *)
2) and/or i don't have time at all anymore, i am not needed, or i become too dumb for the job, and get replaced: it's not my style to leave in the middle of unfinished work.

but i don't think the/your problem is in any way personal here, nor i am taking it as such for now. everyone has his own opinion about cyberarmy part, progress/downfall and future which aren't always 100% compatible with the current one, furthermore a lot of them are based on inaccurate assumptions, and more importantly very few will go further than posting x points suggestions or just feel proud they caused a drama and/or a contreversy.

then of course you can blame the current working folks and get nostalgic to the good old days.. classic.
you obivously weren't there.. beleive me.. they weren't so good.. there was just so much ppl comming in and out that the drama was much more diluted.. they were very similar to what we have today.. at least now, there is much more mature elements (probably because of "stability", yet again, you could argue on the biological connotations) a real structure, and so many events we have learned from, on which any eventual future can be built.

of course, the "family" bit would be cool, but i think we've all got over the "can't we just all get along", because history shows us it's not that simple to compose with humans.

-- cheers,
Vice CinC wa1800z
CyberArmy Development Team
CyberArmy Technical Administrator


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